Universitas_in_trasformazione June 2013

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Russian academy
by claudio procesi 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a farla circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare all'indirizzo che ci mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is in act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences. We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and distinguished institutions, one should do it with extreme care and full involvement of the scientific community. Such reforms, when done only by bureaucrats and politicians destroy traditions and do not build anything useful for the future. Needless to say that, even in the most obscure years of the past, the academic institutions of Russia and the Soviet Union have always carried a high and unique scholarly tradition. We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours firme se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare. COPY: Moscow, June 29, 2013 Dear Professor Procesi, On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian Academy of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a new public organization. All the existing institutions of our Academy are offered to move away from the new organization, to subordinate them to a special administrative Government agency, and to subject to a selection compliant with certain conditions defined solely by this agency. A very negative experience of such a selection made by Government officials was demonstrated last fall during monitoring of the educational institutions in Russia. Many popular and highly reputed universities have been declared ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do with assessing real scientific level. Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law, which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in Russia, has been prepared and examined without discussion with the scientific community. Even the public structures created by the Ministry of Education and Science for consultations with the representatives of the scientific community have not been involved in a discussion of the draft law and have not been informed on its existence. The Academy also has not been informed on the existence of the project. This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should be completed within three months. We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the Russian Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the Department of Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) om(a)ras.ru. Unfortunately, the matter is urgent. We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for science in Russia time. A. N. Parshin, V. L.Popov Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito, Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, Roma, Italia fax 0039-06-44701007 http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/

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Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Digest di Universitas_in_trasformazione, Volume 52, Numero 10
by Carlo Cosmelli 30 Jun '13

30 Jun '13

Sottoscrivo. Carlo Cosmelli , docente di fisica. Sapienza. Roma cc Il giorno 30/giu/2013 09.54, < universitas_in_trasformazione-request(a)mail.dm.unipi.it> ha scritto: > Invia le richieste di iscrizione alla lista > Universitas_in_trasformazione all'indirizzo > universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it > > Per iscriverti o cancellarti attraverso il web, visita > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > oppure, via email, manda un messaggio con oggetto `help' all'indirizzo > universitas_in_trasformazione-request(a)mail.dm.unipi.it > > Puoi contattare la persona che gestisce la lista all'indirizzo > universitas_in_trasformazione-owner(a)mail.dm.unipi.it > > Se rispondi a questo messaggio, per favore edita la linea dell'oggetto > in modo che sia più utile di un semplice "Re: Contenuti del digest > della lista Universitas_in_trasformazione..." > > > Argomenti del Giorno: > > 1. Re: Russian academy (ragusa(a)dmi.unict.it) > 2. Re: Russian academy (Giuseppe Anichini) > 3. Re: Russian academy (Pietro Terna) > 4. Re: Russian academy (Giuseppe Antonio Nistico') > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:38:24 +0200 > From: ragusa(a)dmi.unict.it > Subject: Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy > To: "Forum "Università e Ricerca\"" > <universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it> > Message-ID: > <20130630083824.Horde.ycGTf_ph4B9Rz9Jgp3pBU1A(a)mbox.dmi.unict.it> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes > > Caro Claudio, > condivido a pieno ed appoggio la petizione. Puoi semz'altro inserire > il mio nome. > Alfio Ragusa > Full Professor in Algebra > University of Catania > > > > claudio procesi <procesi(a)mat.uniroma1.it> ha scritto: > > > cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due > > Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a > > farla circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare > > all'indirizzo che ci mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo > > > > Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is > > in act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences. > > > > > > We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to > > firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and > > distinguished institutions, one should do it with extreme care and > > full involvement of the scientific community. Such reforms, when > > done only by bureaucrats and politicians destroy traditions and do > > not build anything useful for the future. Needless to say that, even > > in the most obscure years of the past, the academic institutions of > > Russia and the Soviet Union have always carried a high and unique > > scholarly tradition. > > > > We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy > > what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours > > firme > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo > > accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > COPY: > > > > Moscow, June 29, 2013 > > > > Dear Professor Procesi, > > > > On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly > > discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian > > Academy of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a > > new public organization. All the existing institutions of our > > Academy are offered to move away from the new organization, to > > subordinate them to a special administrative Government agency, and > > to subject to a selection compliant with certain conditions defined > > solely by this agency. A very negative experience of such a > > selection made by Government officials was demonstrated last fall > > during monitoring of the educational institutions in Russia. Many > > popular and highly reputed universities have been declared > > ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do > > with assessing real scientific level. > > > > Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law, > > which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in > > Russia, has been prepared and examined without discussion with the > > scientific community. Even the public structures created by the > > Ministry of Education and Science for consultations with the > > representatives of the scientific community have not been involved > > in a discussion of the draft law and have not been informed on its > > existence. The Academy also has not been informed on the existence > > of the project. > > > > This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian > > Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the > > acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should > > be completed within three months. > > > > We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the > > Russian Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the > > Department of Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) > > om(a)ras.ru. Unfortunately, the matter is urgent. > > > > We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for > > science in Russia time. > > > > > > A. N. > Parshin, > > > > V. L.Popov > > > > > > > > Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito, > > > > Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo > > > > Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei > > > > Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, > > Roma, Italia > > fax 0039-06-44701007 > > http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > > > > Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > impostazioni: > > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > > > > Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di > > Universitas Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:42:27 +0200 > From: Giuseppe Anichini <giuseppe.anichini(a)unifi.it> > Subject: Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy > To: universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it > Message-ID: <51CFD353.6020703(a)unifi.it> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Caro Procesi > aderisco e sottoscrivo la lettera. > > Giuseppe Anichini > Professore di Analisi Matematica -- Firenze > Segretario Unione Matematica Italiana > > > Il 29/06/2013 19:37, Enrico Arbarello ha scritto: > > Sottoscrivo. > > Enrico Arbarello > > Professore di Geometria > > Sapienza, Roma > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 2013, at 6:08 PM, claudio procesi wrote: > > > >> cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due > Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a farla > circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare all'indirizzo che ci > mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo > >> > >> Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is in > act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences. > >> > >> > >> We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to > firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and distinguished > institutions, one should do it with extreme care and full involvement of > the scientific community. Such reforms, when done only by bureaucrats and > politicians destroy traditions and do not build anything useful for the > future. Needless to say that, even in the most obscure years of the past, > the academic institutions of Russia and the Soviet Union have always > carried a high and unique scholarly tradition. > >> > >> We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy > what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours > >> firme > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo > accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> COPY: > >> > Moscow, June 29, 2013 > >> > >> Dear Professor Procesi, > >> > >> On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly > discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian Academy > of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a new public > organization. All the existing institutions of our Academy are offered to > move away from the new organization, to subordinate them to a special > administrative Government agency, and to subject to a selection compliant > with certain conditions defined solely by this agency. A very negative > experience of such a selection made by Government officials was > demonstrated last fall during monitoring of the educational institutions in > Russia. Many popular and highly reputed universities have been declared > ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do with > assessing real scientific level. > >> > >> Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law, > which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in Russia, > has been prepared and examined without discussion with the scientific > community. Even the public structures created by the Ministry of Education > and Science for consultations with the representatives of the scientific > community have not been involved in a discussion of the draft law and have > not been informed on its existence. The Academy also has not been informed > on the existence of the project. > >> > >> This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian > Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the > acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should be > completed within three months. > >> > >> We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the Russian > Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the Department of > Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) om(a)ras.ru. Unfortunately, > the matter is urgent. > >> > >> We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for > science in Russia time. > >> > >> > >> A. N. > Parshin, > >> V. > L.Popov > >> > >> > >> > >> Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito, > >> > >> Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo > >> > >> Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei > >> > >> Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, > >> Roma, Italia > >> fax 0039-06-44701007 > >> http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > >> > >> Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > impostazioni: > >> https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > >> > >> Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di Universitas > Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > > _______________________________________________ > > Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > > > > Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > impostazioni: > > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > > > > Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di Universitas > Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > > > -- > Giuseppe Anichini ? P.O. Analisi Matematica > Segretario Unione Matematica Italiana > Direttore Dipartimento di Matematica e Informatica ?U.Dini? > Viale Morgagni 67/A 50134 Firenze tel 055 435134 > cell. 339 4322511 ? giuseppe.anichini(a)unifi.it > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:04:33 +0200 > From: Pietro Terna <pietro.terna(a)unito.it> > Subject: Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy > To: universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it, > vpopov03(a)gmail.com, parshin(a)mi.ras.ru > Message-ID: <51CFD881.8020202(a)unito.it> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > > I subscribe, Pietro Terna > > full professor of economics, university of Torino > > > On 29 giu 2013, at 18.08, claudio procesi <procesi(a)mat.uniroma1.it> wrote: > >> cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due > Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a farla > circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare all'indirizzo che ci > mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo > >> > >> Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is in > act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences. > >> > >> > >> We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to > firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and distinguished > institutions, one should do it with extreme care and full involvement of > the scientific community. Such reforms, when done only by bureaucrats and > politicians destroy traditions and do not build anything useful for the > future. Needless to say that, even in the most obscure years of the past, > the academic institutions of Russia and the Soviet Union have always > carried a high and unique scholarly tradition. > >> > >> We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy > what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours > >> firme > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo > accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> COPY: > >> > Moscow, June 29, 2013 > >> > >> Dear Professor Procesi, > >> > >> On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly > discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian Academy > of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a new public > organization. All the existing institutions of our Academy are offered to > move away from the new organization, to subordinate them to a special > administrative Government agency, and to subject to a selection compliant > with certain conditions defined solely by this agency. A very negative > experience of such a selection made by Government officials was > demonstrated last fall during monitoring of the educational institutions in > Russia. Many popular and highly reputed universities have been declared > ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do with > assessing real scientific level. > >> > >> Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law, > which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in Russia, > has been prepared and examined without discussion with the scientific > community. Even the public structures created by the Ministry of Education > and Science for consultations with the representatives of the scientific > community have not been involved in a discussion of the draft law and have > not been informed on its existence. The Academy also has not been informed > on the existence of the project. > >> > >> This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian > Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the > acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should be > completed within three months. > >> > >> We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the Russian > Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the Department of > Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) om(a)ras.ru. Unfortunately, > the matter is urgent. > >> > >> We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for > science in Russia time. > >> > >> > >> A. N. > Parshin, > >> V. > L.Popov > >> > >> > >> > >> Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito, > >> > >> Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo > >> > >> Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei > >> > >> Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, > >> Roma, Italia > >> fax 0039-06-44701007 > >> http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > >> > >> Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > impostazioni: > >> https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > >> > >> Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di Universitas > Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > > > > Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > impostazioni: > > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > > > > Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di Universitas > Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > > > > > > -- > NB my mail address is now uniquely pietro.terna(a)unito.it > > The world is full of interesting problems to be solved! > Home page http://web.econ.unito.it/terna or http://goo.gl/y0zbx > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:48:48 +0200 > From: "Giuseppe Antonio Nistico'" <giuseppe.nistico(a)unical.it> > Subject: Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy > To: pietro.terna(a)unito.it, Forum Università e Ricerca > <universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it> > Message-ID: > <CAEKBxsCmZYf4e_qq= > nVAiKv35ew2SPqWhKBKQ2xSNp7qLfgk4Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Naturalmente sottoscrivo la lettera. > E' una tendenza globale quella dei governi che, sordi alla cultura, > procedono a distruggere quello che si è costruito in centinaia di anni. > > Giuseppe Nisticò > professore di Fisica Matematica > Università della Calabria > > > 2013/6/30 Pietro Terna <pietro.terna(a)unito.it> > > > I subscribe, Pietro Terna > > > > full professor of economics, university of Torino > > > > > > On 29 giu 2013, at 18.08, claudio procesi <procesi(a)mat.uniroma1.it> > wrote: > > >> cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due > > Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a farla > > circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare all'indirizzo che > ci > > mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo > > >> > > >> Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is > in > > act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences. > > >> > > >> > > >> We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to > > firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and distinguished > > institutions, one should do it with extreme care and full involvement of > > the scientific community. Such reforms, when done only by bureaucrats > and > > politicians destroy traditions and do not build anything useful for the > > future. Needless to say that, even in the most obscure years of the past, > > the academic institutions of Russia and the Soviet Union have always > > carried a high and unique scholarly tradition. > > >> > > >> We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy > > what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours > > >> firme > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo > > accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> COPY: > > >> > > Moscow, June 29, 2013 > > >> > > >> Dear Professor Procesi, > > >> > > >> On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly > > discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian > Academy > > of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a new public > > organization. All the existing institutions of our Academy are offered to > > move away from the new organization, to subordinate them to a special > > administrative Government agency, and to subject to a selection compliant > > with certain conditions defined solely by this agency. A very negative > > experience of such a selection made by Government officials was > > demonstrated last fall during monitoring of the educational institutions > in > > Russia. Many popular and highly reputed universities have been declared > > ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do with > > assessing real scientific level. > > >> > > >> Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law, > > which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in Russia, > > has been prepared and examined without discussion with the scientific > > community. Even the public structures created by the Ministry of > Education > > and Science for consultations with the representatives of the scientific > > community have not been involved in a discussion of the draft law and > have > > not been informed on its existence. The Academy also has not been > informed > > on the existence of the project. > > >> > > >> This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian > > Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the > > acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should be > > completed within three months. > > >> > > >> We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the > Russian > > Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the Department of > > Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) om(a)ras.ru. Unfortunately, > > the matter is urgent. > > >> > > >> We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for > > science in Russia time. > > >> > > >> > > >> A. N. > > Parshin, > > >> V. > > L.Popov > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito, > > >> > > >> Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo > > >> > > >> Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei > > >> > > >> Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, > > >> Roma, Italia > > >> fax 0039-06-44701007 > > >> http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/ > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > > >> > > >> Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > > impostazioni: > > >> https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > > >> > > >> Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di > Universitas > > Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > > > > > > Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > > impostazioni: > > > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > > > > > > Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di Universitas > > Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > > > > > > > > > > -- > > NB my mail address is now uniquely pietro.terna(a)unito.it > > > > The world is full of interesting problems to be solved! > > Home page http://web.econ.unito.it/terna or http://goo.gl/y0zbx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > > > > Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > > impostazioni: > > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > > > > Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di Universitas > > Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Universitas_in_trasformazione mailing list > Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it > > Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, cambiare le proprie impostazioni: > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > impostazioni: > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > > Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di Universitas > Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > > > > Fine di Digest di Universitas_in_trasformazione, Volume 52, Numero 10 > ********************************************************************* > >

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Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy
by Silvana De Lillo 30 Jun '13

30 Jun '13

Firmo con molto piacere questo appello Silvana De Lillo Full Professor of Mathematical Physics University of Perugia and I.N.F.N. Perugia, Italy Walter Lacarbonara <walter.lacarbonara(a)uniroma1.it> ha scritto: > Aderisco. > > Walter Lacarbonara > Università di Roma La Sapienza > > > ____________________________________________ > Walter Lacarbonara > Co-Editor, J. Sound & Vibration, ASME J. Vibration & Acoustics > Department of Structural Engineering > Sapienza Research Center for Aerospace CRAS > SAPIENZA University of Rome > via Eudossiana 18 - 00184 Rome Italy > office: +39 (06) 44585-111 - fax: +39 (06) 44585-754 > e-mail: walter.lacarbonara(a)uniroma1.it, webpage: w3.disg.uniroma1.it/ > lacarbonara > Nonlinear Structural Mechanics, Springer (2013) > http://springer.com/978-1-4419-1275-6 > > > Il giorno 29/giu/13, alle ore 18:08, claudio procesi ha scritto: > >> cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due >> Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a >> farla circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare >> all'indirizzo che ci mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo >> >> Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is >> in act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences. >> >> >> We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to >> firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and >> distinguished institutions, one should do it with extreme care and >> full involvement of the scientific community. Such reforms, when >> done only by bureaucrats and politicians destroy traditions and do >> not build anything useful for the future. Needless to say that, even >> in the most obscure years of the past, the academic institutions of >> Russia and the Soviet Union have always carried a high and unique >> scholarly tradition. >> >> We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy >> what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours >> firme >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo >> accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> COPY: >> >> Moscow >> , June 29, 2013 >> >> Dear Professor Procesi, >> >> On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly >> discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian >> Academy of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a >> new public organization. All the existing institutions of our >> Academy are offered to move away from the new organization, to >> subordinate them to a special administrative Government agency, and >> to subject to a selection compliant with certain conditions defined >> solely by this agency. A very negative experience of such a >> selection made by Government officials was demonstrated last fall >> during monitoring of the educational institutions in Russia. Many >> popular and highly reputed universities have been declared >> ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do >> with assessing real scientific level. >> >> Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law, >> which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in >> Russia, has been prepared and examined without discussion with the >> scientific community. Even the public structures created by the >> Ministry of Education and Science for consultations with the >> representatives of the scientific community have not been involved >> in a discussion of the draft law and have not been informed on its >> existence. The Academy also has not been informed on the existence >> of the project. >> >> This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian >> Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the >> acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should >> be completed within three months. >> >> We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the >> Russian Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the >> Department of Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) >> om(a)ras.ru. Unfortunately, the matter is urgent. >> >> We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for >> science in Russia time. >> >> >> A. N. >> Parshin, >> >> V. L.Popov >> >> >> >> Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito, >> >> Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo >> >> Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei >> >> Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, >> Roma, Italia >> fax 0039-06-44701007 >> http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list >> >> Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie >> impostazioni: >> https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione >> >> Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di >> Universitas Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > > > _______________________________________________ > Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > > Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie impostazioni: > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > > Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di > Universitas Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php > Silvana De Lillo Professore di Fisica Matematica Dipartimento di Matematica e Informatica Università di Perugia e I.N.F.N. Sezione di Perugia tel.+390755855056 fax +390755855024 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the INFN Perugia Internet Messaging Program.

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Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian Academy
by Francesco Gianturco 29 Jun '13

29 Jun '13

Caro Procesi, la lettera che ci hai inviato coincide con quanto mi dicono i miei amici accademici del mondo della fisica : ancor più miopia che nel nostro Pease ! Sottoscrivo senz'altro, Franco > ---------------------------------------- Prof. Dr. Franco A.Gianturco, Senior Professor of Theoretical Chemical Physics, DPhil(Oxon),FRSC,CPhys,FInstP,Fellow APS,Fellow EPS, Fellow AcadEur. Department of Chemistry, The University of Rome "La Sapienza" Piazzale A.Moro, 5, 00185 Rome, Italy. Tel.+39-06-49913306 , Fax : +39-06-49913305 . E.mail : francesco.gianturco(a)uniroma1.it . Home Page : http://w3.uniroma1.it/gianturco

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Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy
by broglia＠dm.unipi.it 29 Jun '13

29 Jun '13

Se giudico sulla base di quello che succede a casa nostra ... dubito che possa servire a qualche cosa. In ogni caso aggiungi il mio nome Fabrizio Broglia University of Pisa Full professor in Geometry > cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a farla circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare all'indirizzo che ci mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo > > Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is in act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences. > > > We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to firmly > stress the fact that, when touching such old and distinguished > institutions, one should do it with extreme care and full involvement of the scientific community. Such reforms, when done only by bureaucrats and > politicians destroy traditions and do not build anything useful for the future. Needless to say that, even in the most obscure years of the past, > the academic institutions of Russia and the Soviet Union have always carried a high and unique scholarly tradition. > > We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours > firme > > > > > > > > > > se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare. > > > > > > > > > > > COPY: > Moscow, > June > 29, > 2013 > > Dear Professor Procesi, > > On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian Academy of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a new public organization. All the existing institutions of our Academy are offered to > move away from the new organization, to subordinate them to a special administrative Government agency, and to subject to a selection compliant > with certain conditions defined solely by this agency. A very negative experience of such a selection made by Government officials was > demonstrated last fall during monitoring of the educational institutions in Russia. Many popular and highly reputed universities have been declared > ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do with assessing real scientific level. > > Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law, which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in Russia, has been prepared and examined without discussion with the scientific community. Even the public structures created by the Ministry of Education > and Science for consultations with the representatives of the scientific community have not been involved in a discussion of the draft law and have > not been informed on its existence. The Academy also has not been informed > on the existence of the project. > > This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should be completed within three months. > > We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the Russian Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the Department of Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) om(a)ras.ru. Unfortunately, the matter is urgent. > > We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for science in Russia time. > > > A. N. > Parshin, > V. > L.Popov > > > > Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito, > > Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo > > Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei > > Universit� di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, > Roma, Italia > fax 0039-06-44701007 > http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/ > > _______________________________________________ > Universitas_in_trasformazione(a)mail.dm.unipi.it mailing list > > Per consultare gli archivi, cancellarsi, o cambiare le proprie > impostazioni: > https://mail.dm.unipi.it/listinfo/universitas_in_trasformazione > > Ulteriori informazioni, e per firmare la petizione, sito di Universitas Futura: http://w3.disg.uniroma1.it/unira/index.php >

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bartolino.fis@gmail.com vuole seguirti. Accetti?
by bartolino.fis＠gmail.com 06 Jun '13

06 Jun '13

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bartolino.fis@gmail.com vuole seguirti. Accetti?
by bartolino.fis＠gmail.com 06 Jun '13

06 Jun '13

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piccolissima proposta
by Giovanni Floris 05 Jun '13

05 Jun '13

Visto che la lista dei componenti la commissione per le riforme istituzionali è composta quasi solo da professori universitari non sarà il caso che prima di accettare ognuno di loro richieda un colloquio con il ministro dell'Università esponendo i mali dell'Università, in particolare modo i guasti del sistema ANVUR per l'idoneità, trattati abbondantemente in questa lista? E, al limite, si rifiutassero di partecipare se non venissero date le necessarie assicurazioni sul futuro dell'Università? Un caro saluto a tutti, Giovanni U. Floris

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Declaration on research assessment (DORA)
by traverso＠posso.dm.unipi.it 04 Jun '13

04 Jun '13

Ho ricevuto tramite una mailing list notizia della seguente iniziativa: > Join the Scholarly Insurrection vs the Impact Factor for the > Assessment of Science --Sign DORA http://am.ascb.org/dora/ E' una iniziativa recente, pubblicizzata a meta' maggio, ed ha gia' due milioni di hits su google, migliaia di adesioni individuali e centinaia di adesioni collettive. L'incipit della dichiarazione: > San Francisco Declaration on Research Assessment > Putting science into the assessment of research > There is a pressing need to improve the ways in which the output of > scientific research is evaluated by funding agencies, academic > institutions, and other parties. > ........... Pur essendo focalizzata principalmente sull'impact factor e' comunque di interesse piu' generale. Carlo Traverso

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