Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Digest di Universitas_in_trasformazione, Volume 52, Numero 10
Sottoscrivo. Carlo Cosmelli , docente di fisica. Sapienza. Roma
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:38:24 +0200 From: ragusa@dmi.unict.it Subject: Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy To: "Forum "Università e Ricerca"" universitas_in_trasformazione@mail.dm.unipi.it Message-ID: 20130630083824.Horde.ycGTf_ph4B9Rz9Jgp3pBU1A@mbox.dmi.unict.it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
Caro Claudio, condivido a pieno ed appoggio la petizione. Puoi semz'altro inserire il mio nome. Alfio Ragusa Full Professor in Algebra University of Catania
claudio procesi procesi@mat.uniroma1.it ha scritto:
cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a farla circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare all'indirizzo che ci mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo
Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is in act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and distinguished institutions, one should do it with extreme care and full involvement of the scientific community. Such reforms, when done only by bureaucrats and politicians destroy traditions and do not build anything useful for the future. Needless to say that, even in the most obscure years of the past, the academic institutions of Russia and the Soviet Union have always carried a high and unique scholarly tradition.
We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours firme
se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare.
COPY:
Moscow, June 29, 2013Dear Professor Procesi,
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian Academy of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a new public organization. All the existing institutions of our Academy are offered to move away from the new organization, to subordinate them to a special administrative Government agency, and to subject to a selection compliant with certain conditions defined solely by this agency. A very negative experience of such a selection made by Government officials was demonstrated last fall during monitoring of the educational institutions in Russia. Many popular and highly reputed universities have been declared ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do with assessing real scientific level.
Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law, which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in Russia, has been prepared and examined without discussion with the scientific community. Even the public structures created by the Ministry of Education and Science for consultations with the representatives of the scientific community have not been involved in a discussion of the draft law and have not been informed on its existence. The Academy also has not been informed on the existence of the project.
This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should be completed within three months.
We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the Russian Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the Department of Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) om@ras.ru. Unfortunately, the matter is urgent.
We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for science in Russia time.
A. N.Parshin,
V. L.Popov
Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito,
Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo
Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei
Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, Roma, Italia fax 0039-06-44701007 http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/
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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:42:27 +0200 From: Giuseppe Anichini giuseppe.anichini@unifi.it Subject: Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy To: universitas_in_trasformazione@mail.dm.unipi.it Message-ID: 51CFD353.6020703@unifi.it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Caro Procesi aderisco e sottoscrivo la lettera.
Giuseppe Anichini Professore di Analisi Matematica -- Firenze Segretario Unione Matematica Italiana
Il 29/06/2013 19:37, Enrico Arbarello ha scritto:
Sottoscrivo. Enrico Arbarello Professore di Geometria Sapienza, Roma
On Jun 29, 2013, at 6:08 PM, claudio procesi wrote:
cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due
Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a farla circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare all'indirizzo che ci mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo
Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is in
act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to
firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and distinguished institutions, one should do it with extreme care and full involvement of the scientific community. Such reforms, when done only by bureaucrats and politicians destroy traditions and do not build anything useful for the future. Needless to say that, even in the most obscure years of the past, the academic institutions of Russia and the Soviet Union have always carried a high and unique scholarly tradition.
We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy
what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours
firme
se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo
accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare.
COPY:
Moscow, June 29, 2013Dear Professor Procesi,
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly
discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian Academy of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a new public organization. All the existing institutions of our Academy are offered to move away from the new organization, to subordinate them to a special administrative Government agency, and to subject to a selection compliant with certain conditions defined solely by this agency. A very negative experience of such a selection made by Government officials was demonstrated last fall during monitoring of the educational institutions in Russia. Many popular and highly reputed universities have been declared ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do with assessing real scientific level.
Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law,
which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in Russia, has been prepared and examined without discussion with the scientific community. Even the public structures created by the Ministry of Education and Science for consultations with the representatives of the scientific community have not been involved in a discussion of the draft law and have not been informed on its existence. The Academy also has not been informed on the existence of the project.
This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian
Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should be completed within three months.
We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the Russian
Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the Department of Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) om@ras.ru. Unfortunately, the matter is urgent.
We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for
science in Russia time.
A. N.Parshin,
V.L.Popov
Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito,
Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo
Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei
Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, Roma, Italia fax 0039-06-44701007 http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/
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-- Giuseppe Anichini ? P.O. Analisi Matematica Segretario Unione Matematica Italiana Direttore Dipartimento di Matematica e Informatica ?U.Dini? Viale Morgagni 67/A 50134 Firenze tel 055 435134 cell. 339 4322511 ? giuseppe.anichini@unifi.it
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:04:33 +0200 From: Pietro Terna pietro.terna@unito.it Subject: Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy To: universitas_in_trasformazione@mail.dm.unipi.it, vpopov03@gmail.com, parshin@mi.ras.ru Message-ID: 51CFD881.8020202@unito.it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
I subscribe, Pietro Ternafull professor of economics, university of Torino
On 29 giu 2013, at 18.08, claudio procesi procesi@mat.uniroma1.it wrote:
cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due
Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a farla circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare all'indirizzo che ci mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo
Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is in
act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to
firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and distinguished institutions, one should do it with extreme care and full involvement of the scientific community. Such reforms, when done only by bureaucrats and politicians destroy traditions and do not build anything useful for the future. Needless to say that, even in the most obscure years of the past, the academic institutions of Russia and the Soviet Union have always carried a high and unique scholarly tradition.
We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy
what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours
firme
se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo
accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare.
COPY:
Moscow, June 29, 2013Dear Professor Procesi,
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly
discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian Academy of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a new public organization. All the existing institutions of our Academy are offered to move away from the new organization, to subordinate them to a special administrative Government agency, and to subject to a selection compliant with certain conditions defined solely by this agency. A very negative experience of such a selection made by Government officials was demonstrated last fall during monitoring of the educational institutions in Russia. Many popular and highly reputed universities have been declared ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do with assessing real scientific level.
Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law,
which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in Russia, has been prepared and examined without discussion with the scientific community. Even the public structures created by the Ministry of Education and Science for consultations with the representatives of the scientific community have not been involved in a discussion of the draft law and have not been informed on its existence. The Academy also has not been informed on the existence of the project.
This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian
Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should be completed within three months.
We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the Russian
Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the Department of Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) om@ras.ru. Unfortunately, the matter is urgent.
We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for
science in Russia time.
A. N.Parshin,
V.L.Popov
Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito,
Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo
Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei
Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, Roma, Italia fax 0039-06-44701007 http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/
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Message: 4 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:48:48 +0200 From: "Giuseppe Antonio Nistico'" giuseppe.nistico@unical.it Subject: Re: [Universitas_in_trasformazione] Russian academy To: pietro.terna@unito.it, Forum Università e Ricerca universitas_in_trasformazione@mail.dm.unipi.it Message-ID: <CAEKBxsCmZYf4e_qq= nVAiKv35ew2SPqWhKBKQ2xSNp7qLfgk4Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Naturalmente sottoscrivo la lettera. E' una tendenza globale quella dei governi che, sordi alla cultura, procedono a distruggere quello che si è costruito in centinaia di anni.
Giuseppe Nisticò professore di Fisica Matematica Università della Calabria
2013/6/30 Pietro Terna pietro.terna@unito.it
I subscribe, Pietro Ternafull professor of economics, university of Torino
On 29 giu 2013, at 18.08, claudio procesi procesi@mat.uniroma1.it
wrote:
cari colleghi, vi mando una copia di una lettera ricevuta da due
Matematici ed accademici Russi, non so cosa possiamo fare oltre a farla circolare. Forse sottoscrivere una lettera da inviare all'indirizzo che
ci
mandano. La lettera potrebbe essere del tipo
Dear Minister, we hear from our distinguished colleagues that it is
in
act a deep transformation of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
We do not want to enter into the details of this plan but want to
firmly stress the fact that, when touching such old and distinguished institutions, one should do it with extreme care and full involvement of the scientific community. Such reforms, when done only by bureaucrats
and
politicians destroy traditions and do not build anything useful for the future. Needless to say that, even in the most obscure years of the past, the academic institutions of Russia and the Soviet Union have always carried a high and unique scholarly tradition.
We hope that hasty and not well planned "reforms" will not destroy
what centuries of scholarly work has built. Sincerely yours
firme
se volete aderire mandatemi una mail con nome cognome e titolo
accademico, che io possa facilmente copiare ed incollare.
COPY:
Moscow, June 29, 2013Dear Professor Procesi,
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 the Russian Government unexpectedly
discussed and approved the draft law on liquidation of the Russian
Academy
of Sciences founded in 1725 and on creating on its basis a new public organization. All the existing institutions of our Academy are offered to move away from the new organization, to subordinate them to a special administrative Government agency, and to subject to a selection compliant with certain conditions defined solely by this agency. A very negative experience of such a selection made by Government officials was demonstrated last fall during monitoring of the educational institutions
in
Russia. Many popular and highly reputed universities have been declared ineffective according to the rules that in fact have little to do with assessing real scientific level.
Another unpleasant aspect of this situation is that the draft law,
which fundamentally changes the system of science organization in Russia, has been prepared and examined without discussion with the scientific community. Even the public structures created by the Ministry of
Education
and Science for consultations with the representatives of the scientific community have not been involved in a discussion of the draft law and
have
not been informed on its existence. The Academy also has not been
informed
on the existence of the project.
This law has already been submitted to the Parliament of the Russian
Federation and is asked to be approved on the next week. After the acceptance of this law, a liquidation process of the Academy should be completed within three months.
We ask you to express your opinion about the destruction of the
Russian
Academy of Sciences. You can send it to the address of the Department of Mathematics of the Academy (with a copy to us) om@ras.ru. Unfortunately, the matter is urgent.
We would be very grateful for your support in this difficult for
science in Russia time.
A. N.Parshin,
V.L.Popov
Claudio Procesi, Professore Emerito,
Dipartimento di Matematica, G. Castelnuovo
Membro dell'Accademia dei Lincei
Università di Roma La Sapienza, piazzale A. Moro 00185, Roma, Italia fax 0039-06-44701007 http://www.mat.uniroma1.it/~procesi/
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